Average lifespan of a flowerhorn?
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Selective inbreeding (ie line breeding) does not necessarily equate to health issues.
I posted the following in another recent thread ..........
In many cases breeders can have just as good a chance of getting healthy fry by breeding fish back to the parents/or themselves (inbreeding) as they would by breeding them to unrelated fish. (outcrossing) It's a roll of the dice no matter what you do, and you won't know what the overall quality of the fry will be until you see the end results. Simply outcrossing a fish is not a guarantee to better quality offspring. The reality is that outbreeding depression can in some cases be every bit as problematic as inbreeding depression.
Please see the comments by Damian (Number6) in the following link.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=167919
Damian explains things in simple laymen terms, and I would highly recommend anyone that breeds fish on a hobby basis to read that discussion for a clearer understanding of how genetics work when breeding related, and/or unrelated fish.
Inbreeding is widely misunderstood in this hobby.
I posted the following in another recent thread ..........
In many cases breeders can have just as good a chance of getting healthy fry by breeding fish back to the parents/or themselves (inbreeding) as they would by breeding them to unrelated fish. (outcrossing) It's a roll of the dice no matter what you do, and you won't know what the overall quality of the fry will be until you see the end results. Simply outcrossing a fish is not a guarantee to better quality offspring. The reality is that outbreeding depression can in some cases be every bit as problematic as inbreeding depression.
Please see the comments by Damian (Number6) in the following link.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=167919
Damian explains things in simple laymen terms, and I would highly recommend anyone that breeds fish on a hobby basis to read that discussion for a clearer understanding of how genetics work when breeding related, and/or unrelated fish.
Inbreeding is widely misunderstood in this hobby.
I sell fh in uk, all differnt type of strains, and all my fh will live past 3years garunteed! Only way they wont is due to poor water quality,disease or parasites etc, if you look after ur fh well with good water,good diet chances are that they will live a long life! I had a fh that was 8 years old before it died,and he only passed due to my female attackin him
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't linebreed blood parrots because the males are infertile.
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Oh then my guess to mn rebels question is that there is less variety of specie in the blood parrot mix...again I could be wrong.
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Did you read the link in post #42? That should help clear things up with regards to inbreeding, number of species involved, etc. Sloppy breeding is sloppy breeding.
If all a breeder sets out to do is create fish with desirable physical attributes, and pays no attention to the overall vigor & health of his line, then genetically weak fish can be the result.
It's not that difficult for someone in the know to create a new type of rose, perhaps the most beautifully colored rose in existence, but what good is that newly created flower if it can't take temps below 70F, or easily succumbs to every form of disease known to roses?
For many of the newer lines of FH, IMO this is exactly what has happened. Too much focus on color, pearling, size of kok, etc and not enough focus on the overall vigor of the fish. So you pay your $$$ and you take your chances.
If all a breeder sets out to do is create fish with desirable physical attributes, and pays no attention to the overall vigor & health of his line, then genetically weak fish can be the result.
It's not that difficult for someone in the know to create a new type of rose, perhaps the most beautifully colored rose in existence, but what good is that newly created flower if it can't take temps below 70F, or easily succumbs to every form of disease known to roses?
For many of the newer lines of FH, IMO this is exactly what has happened. Too much focus on color, pearling, size of kok, etc and not enough focus on the overall vigor of the fish. So you pay your $$$ and you take your chances.
I have just bought a 3month old flowerhorn what has pop gut, how long would a fh with these genetic issues live for, thanks!