building a 1000 gal concrete block monster tank

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blacksmith37;608378; said:
I missed your interlocking corners; although I like the holes in the pad for the vertical rebar the best ( and the masic internal coating). Looks Good !
Overengineering might be stainless rebar so you could switch to salt water at some time.
Nothing personal , but as an engineer, I have never been impressed by the mechanical abilities of architects. One super architect screw-up I was familiar with was the replacement of the marble skin of the Standard Oil Bldg in Chicago . It cost more than the original building.
I wouldn't mention using A36 steel as it is the lowest common denominator for structural and plate; It would be difficult to find a piece of mild steel that did not meet the requirements of A36.
Here's a really interesting piece of irony! I was just talking to one of the owners of the firm i work for, and we were talking about granite. He went off on talking about when he was fresh out of school working on a building re-cladding of a building in Chicago! I said NO WAY. Yes, it was the Standard Oil Bldg. Here's some interesting info about that little project. When the building was built, nobody really understood the long term affects of a 1/2" sliver of marble exposed to direct sunlight. The marble warped and poped loose of it's clips causing 600lb pieces of marble to come crashing into the park below. They apparently handed out hard hats to walk into and out of the building.

The firm he worked for had to design a completely new system to attach the new 2" thck granite sheets to the steel which was designed to carry a 1/2" piece of marble. A 2 story mach up was built in lower indiana with the new clip system before the quarry mined the new granite. The cost was around 80 million dollars which was about half of the cost of the original structure. Re-cladding the building was the only solution, and the procedure was a lot more involved than just clipping on new panels.
 

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wizzin;614375; said:
Here's a really interesting piece of irony! I was just talking to one of the owners of the firm i work for, and we were talking about granite. He went off on talking about when he was fresh out of school working on a building re-cladding of a building in Chicago! I said NO WAY. Yes, it was the Standard Oil Bldg. Here's some interesting info about that little project. When the building was built, nobody really understood the long term affects of a 1/2" sliver of marble exposed to direct sunlight. The marble warped and poped loose of it's clips causing 600lb pieces of marble to come crashing into the park below. They apparently handed out hard hats to walk into and out of the building.

The firm he worked for had to design a completely new system to attach the new 2" thck granite sheets to the steel which was designed to carry a 1/2" piece of marble. A 2 story mach up was built in lower indiana with the new clip system before the quarry mined the new granite. The cost was around 80 million dollars which was about half of the cost of the original structure. Re-cladding the building was the only solution, and the procedure was a lot more involved than just clipping on new panels.
Help me out here...I fail to see the irony in all of this. Specifically what do you find ironical?
 

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soggysandwich;620024; said:
how this baby coming, you start yet
No concrete block yet. I did buy the sanitred though. I'm hoping things come through and I'll get the block this weekend. My wife and I were talking about this yesterday and I might be moving it to another spot. Same dimensions, but the new spot will allow me to have all the filtration on the oposite side of the wall from the tank in our utility room. That way I can make it look completely built in. I also wouldn't have the column to deal with and pulling the new wiring will be easier.

Don't worry, once theres something to show, I'll post pics.

I did setup a 35gal tank over the weekend for the rearing of the baby aros :headbang2
 

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great tank,

I am not an architect or engineer but i have been involved with construction all my life. (and have made my living off of it for the last 12 years)

I would consider using knock-out blocks for the top course of blocks, then you could pour the top course solid and tie every filled block together, i can't imagine that it would increase the cost dramatically.

my 2 cents
 

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I got the check today!!!! WOOOHOOOO!!!! :nilly: Concrete block this weekend!!!


hmt321;620798; said:
great tank,

I am not an architect or engineer but i have been involved with construction all my life. (and have made my living off of it for the last 12 years)

I would consider using knock-out blocks for the top course of blocks, then you could pour the top course solid and tie every filled block together, i can't imagine that it would increase the cost dramatically.

my 2 cents
I agree. In fact, I was considering doing the base row and top row with knock-outs. The second row down from the top row is also going to have the overflow "cut" into one of the blocks, so using knock-outs to create sort of a bond beam header will help strengthen the top.

Thanks for your advice!!!
 

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edotero;621642; said:
I can not wait to see this setup.
you and me both! My wife is all kinds of excited. It all started when I took her to the LFS and they had about a 8" silver aro. She fell in love. I told her that was the main purpose of the tank and now she loves it. Plus it means that I have to finish the rest of the area that it's going in, which she has wanted me to do for a long time.

I know a lot of people wont like this, but it's not going to be strictly SA. It's more of a mixed monster tank. (3 or 5) Silver aros, (1) RTC, (1) CK and a couple oscars.
 
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