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Cheap plants, less nitrate! POTHOS

OK I think I understand now. A tank with only a massive sump of pothos may be ideal. In a biofilter- potho combo after adding the pothos, as they grow they slowly steal more and more ammonia away from the BB in the biofilter. Which lessons available bb in the filter, but also lowers nitrates. Because the biofilter generally only converts ammonia to nitrite then nitrate, while pothos absorb it. So, if you had a situation where the pothos were to all die and start rotting you may have an ammonia super spike since they are now taking the load.

Tell me I've got it now?:grinno:

Yes. There were no studies that I found that used pothos, so while I can tell you that potatoes, melons and roses were tested and found to prefer ammonia first, I can't say Pothos does that for certain. I'd be concerned that the pothos were reducing (not eliminating) BB by competing for ammonia, so in the case where plants were suddenly removed, I'd want to reduce feeding and act as if a large amount of BB had been removed, since the existing population would have been sustained on less than the full ammonia generated in the tank. Give the tank a week and slowly increase food while taking readings. The BB in a week will have increased 100 fold and things will be fine.
 
Yes. There were no studies that I found that used pothos, so while I can tell you that potatoes, melons and roses were tested and found to prefer ammonia first, I can't say Pothos does that for certain. I'd be concerned that the pothos were reducing (not eliminating) BB by competing for ammonia, so in the case where plants were suddenly removed, I'd want to reduce feeding and act as if a large amount of BB had been removed, since the existing population would have been sustained on less than the full ammonia generated in the tank. Give the tank a week and slowly increase food while taking readings. The BB in a week will have increased 100 fold and things will be fine.

Yea I doubt it's a problem, when and if you remove them just don't overfeed, and test your water. When I removed my second plant I never did anything and nothing changed.



Good reads Dr strange, your a bright person!

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women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.


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Do you have a canopy or lid.?

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>http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS

Yaya on one i have a piece of glass shielding the shoplight n the rest is open heres a pic of that one uploadfromtaptalk1359608586303.jpg the other one has the same shop light with glass covering it but on the sides its acrylic like this uploadfromtaptalk1359608977516.jpg in both situations the plants are just layed inbetween the border and the rim of the tank... I have the roots dangling in the water...

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Do you have a canopy or lid.?

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>http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS

Yaya on one i have a piece of glass shielding the shoplight n the rest is open heres a pic of that one View attachment 875704 the other one has the same shop light with glass covering it but on the sides its acrylic like this View attachment 875705 in both situations the plants are just layed inbetween the border and the rim of the tank... I have the roots dangling in the water...

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Hey all, been following this thread loosly, and recently started this. I used one huge plant $9 at home depot in a hanging pot pretty thick, on my 125 over stocked tank. I do weekly wcs at 80% and last time i check nitrates were at 40 or so i think. So we will see. Is that one plant enough to make a difference in this tank? I have another plant if needed.


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Yaya on one i have a piece of glass shielding the shoplight n the rest is open heres a pic of that one View attachment 875704 the other one has the same shop light with glass covering it but on the sides its acrylic like this View attachment 875705 in both situations the plants are just layed inbetween the border and the rim of the tank... I have the roots dangling in the water...

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Not the most pretty way to do it but that works! Plants look healthy too!

Hey all, been following this thread loosly, and recently started this. I used one huge plant $9 at home depot in a hanging pot pretty thick, on my 125 over stocked tank. I do weekly wcs at 80% and last time i check nitrates were at 40 or so i think. So we will see. Is that one plant enough to make a difference in this tank? I have another plant if needed.


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Woofy, I know we've had our differences but I appreciate your participation on this thread and on mfk, you seem to be a nice person and I respect that, cheers!

I look forward to your results, I got the same plant at home depot for the same $ and have it on the same tank, with one plant I see about 20-25ppm nitrate reduction with 5 lg fish, after the first few weeks it was about 10-15ppm. hopefully you will see similar results, btw I have 2x 9watt cfl on the plant, seems to have helped a bit, you can find the fixtures in the auto section at Walmart for 5-6$ a pop and the bulbs are cheap!
http://mobile.walmart.com/m/phoenix#ip/Bayco-8-Super-Clamp-Light/16652299

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women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS
 
The tank with the plants is in my living room next to big window and a little window on top of the door. Im guessing this is enough ambient light for this plant? Worst case it doesnt grow well, i have a 13w clamp light i can use. I took a piece with roots and also added to our 2g betta tank that gets lots of sun. So should be nice for him.


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The tank with the plants is in my living room next to big window and a little window on top of the door. Im guessing this is enough ambient light for this plant? Worst case it doesnt grow well, i have a 13w clamp light i can use. I took a piece with roots and also added to our 2g betta tank that gets lots of sun. So should be nice for him.


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Ambient light should be fine! Pics plz!

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Go S.Vettel #1 RB8 3X WDC!!!!!!!!!


women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS
 
Still sticking mainly with the veggies, but stuck a piece of almost dead pothos in just for S&G. We'll see what happens.
 
Did the stuff between glass canopy and tank rim method. I had no space for the f1vet method. I just have the roots dangling, fish have left them alone and one jag in particular has made it his new home. I forgot to clip the ends, how important is this? Cause it would suck to have to unstuff all these plants (or maybe i can clip them under water, lol next lounge post: will you use kitchen scissors in your tank?) but anyways i digress, point is you can see in the pics how much light is coming in by the shine on the wall. :) enjoy!

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