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Cheap plants, less nitrate! POTHOS

Here's a pic of my pothos setup. Piece of foam insulation poked holes and lithosphere cheap 13w light.

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I like it, nice & organized little setup! Awesome job!
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women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.


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Be careful with floating foam. Not all foams are food-safe/fish-safe/inert, etc. Some have harmful chemicals that can leech out of them.

Its called perma r. Says online that its non hazardous and made of polypropylene... care to double check for me? Would hate to poison my fish!

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What they probably mean is that it's non-hazardous for the use it was designed for. I doubt that they intended it to be fully inert in water, which is the measure of a food safe item. polypropylene IS usually considered safe, it's the chemicals that it was prepared with that can be harmful. For example what chemical was sprayed into the mold to make the foam not stick when it comes out of the mold or sheet that it was expanded on, etc. The only way to check 100% is to contact the manufacturer. IF that is unrealistic, you can at least soak it in water, weighted down, with vinegar, isopropryl alcohol and propolyene glycol in it. The vinegar and alcohol will help lift away any chemicals. The propylene glycol is a food safe chemical used in food colors, it has the effect of dissolving hard to dissolve substances like the dye in the food color. It is particularly effective when used to clean polypropylene. If you find it in a large enough amount you can use it at full strength to wipe away any chemicals on foam, new acrylic or plexiglass, newly hardened epoxy or resin used to make wood tanks, etc. I have used propoylene glycol to dissolve flubendazole or metrodaizanol medications that normally don't dissolve in fish tank water to make them more absorbable biologically to the fish. It can also be used in preparing new driftwood for aquarium use.
 
Krusty so you think It is hazardous? Should I remove it? What other uptions do I have? Any known safe foam? Thanks

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F1 VET,

A great BIG THANK YOU from all the DIY'ers out there. Reading through the 65+ pages it looks like you have helped an insane number of MFK's via this thread.

I have a planted tank, but town water supply has unpredictable nitrate swings.

POTHOS is going to be in my tank by weeks end. :)

Much appreciated brother
 
Krusty so you think It is hazardous? Should I remove it? What other uptions do I have? Any known safe foam? Thanks

If the foam came from fish shipping styros or disposable coolers, then it's probably safe. If it was sourced as insulation for homes, trailers, or RVs then I would not trust it. I have used both fish shipping styros and walmart disposable coolers in the same way you are using it and know they were safe (at the time)by experience, at least in the short term. I have used fish styros to raise fry numerous times. If you don't know where that foam originally came from and you have expensive fish, I WOULD change it out for styro from a fish box. Walmart disposable coolers probably change manufacturers often and are probably all from China so those I would only use on cheap or disposable fish. You can also look for the recycle code on the bottom of the original material that the foam came from and get that number and look up online what it is likely made of and then research how safe that type of foam is. If the ray in your profile is one of the fish that is in contact with that foam, I would think real hard about switching it out with foam you feel safer using. If you want to keep that foam, at least watch your fish really close for any change in behavior, restlessness, lethargy, disinterest in food, surface infections, cloudy eyes, extra redness around the gills, etc. Anything that could be a reaction to chemicals. The saving grace of Pothos is that it has been shown to be able to absorb harmful chemicals from the air of indoor settings and will probably also help do the same thing in your fishtank as long as you don't allow dead leaves to decompose in the tank.
 
I have 4 tanks with pothos in hob's... really not enough to cut down the wc's very much but I am just looking to reduce nitrates a little ... they have been in the filters for a couple of weeks ... I WILL POST RESULTS OF NITRATE TESTS SOON...:popcorn:
 
Replaced foam with a fish safe food cooler lid! Thanks Krusty! That was a stupid thing to overlook!


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I have 4 tanks with pothos in hob's... really not enough to cut down the wc's very much but I am just looking to reduce nitrates a little ... they have been in the filters for a couple of weeks ... I WILL POST RESULTS OF NITRATE TESTS SOON...:popcorn:

Sounds good man!

Replaced foam with a fish safe food cooler lid! Thanks Krusty! That was a stupid thing to overlook!


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It happens man, can never be to safe! Thats what mfk is for! Also the setup looks good, i really like that idea, very simple!


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Go S.Vettel #1 RB8 3X WDC!!!!!!!!!


women?! pleeze. you're like one of my grandsons. I can't even visualize you thattaway, it's just wrong.
I forgot all about NLS.

you might wanna cut back on your jet fuel intake.


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?504763-Cheap-plants-less-nitrate!-POTHOS
 
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