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Cheap plants, less nitrate! POTHOS

Well no more pothos for a while. Here's my mistake you can learn from.

Keep the lighting away from the root system, and on the plants themselves.

My t5 hos kept growing algae on the roots and ruined the growth and root system. But keeping my tank lit is more important to me right now. Another day I will do a really cool potho sump.


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Loving this. My fav plant is the extremely fast growing coleus qith hundreds of varieties. They root very well in water also and need minimal light to grow huge fast. I will now be adding them to my setups tnx to this thread and will report on how well they work. Keeping monster catfish nitrates are always an issue. This might just be a solution. I will posts pics in a few weeks when i get this going on my 100 for starters. :) haha now i can combine my fav fish and fav plants. Sweet

Thx for keeping us in the loop, its always interesting exploring new ways and techniques to keep n03 low!

My willow cutting has taken off! I might add a larger one this weekend. And in autumn I will try a banana plant in my 60g indoors :)

This sounds equally interesting. I kind of want to try a tomato plant eventually.?

Not sure if anyone posted this already, but this link shows how the plant takes in nutrients in the water and keeps the fish healthy. Seemingly these plants would do better with no biological filtration at all and could eliminate water changes all together.

http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Plants_and_Biological_Filtration

This can be true but the need to replace natural minerals in the water is priceless and with an overstocked and overfed tank I don't see the plant keeping up.

post some pics. I'm on hunt for some willow branches too.



Very good read. How would you setup a tank without biological filtration and still keep the water clear? I'm guessing you'd run an undersized filter so there wouldnt be enough beneficial bacteria and youd have a lot of ammonia left over? I have a ton of water lettuce in my pond so I'm excited about this idea.

Yes mechanical filtration would be hard to keep up on, one would need to wash/replace the pads atleast weekly and keep the substrate/glass clean as well to prevent anaerobic bb from growing.

Question is: can the plant consume the waste before it stresses the fish? Fish are always secreting ammonia and after a big feeding it would spike imo, however a well desired idea!

I found the perfect spot for them. Right outside that window in the last pic. After 11:30-12:00 the sun is on that side of the house the rest of the day.


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That's awesome, one heck of a vine!

the article info about which plants preferentially use ammonium (& some, also nitrite) are worth exploring. Interestingly enough, the lowly Anacharis & Duckweed use ammonium first.
Water lettuce isn't feasible in the limited top space of my acrylic tanks.

Very true for many of us, I guess a sump with a big enough footprint might work given the tank size and stock.?

Well no more pothos for a while. Here's my mistake you can learn from.

Keep the lighting away from the root system, and on the plants themselves.

My t5 hos kept growing algae on the roots and ruined the growth and root system. But keeping my tank lit is more important to me right now. Another day I will do a really cool potho sump.

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My light is somewhat close to the roots and I've never had this problem, perhaps you got stressed plant because the pothos should help eliminate algae. the roots could have also died, both situations would have looked similar.


Good info and updates guys keep em coming!

Here's my mighty plant:
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ATM I'm really just topping off the tank weekly and levels never exceed 20-25ppm, given the fact that I have 6 adult red belly piranha in a 125gal I think that's pretty damn good, loving life :beer:





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Cheap way to decrease nitrates and keep your fish healthy: http://monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=504763
 
I need to test my nitrates still.
My tank only has 7 bass between 8-12+-" now....
And I have 2 huge pothos plants growing outta the top.
My bass almost seem happier days after a wc and pissed the day of/after.
Could the pothos really improve the water quality that much?
 
I need to test my nitrates still.
My tank only has 7 bass between 8-12+-" now....
And I have 2 huge pothos plants growing outta the top.
My bass almost seem happier days after a wc and pissed the day of/after.
Could the pothos really improve the water quality that much?



WC given the amount (<->50%) can stress a fish due to many factors, including incoming tap vs tank temp, dechlor, possible ph change, added chems from water supplier, stress from turning filters on/off and general human movement, etc. A little stress is a bit normal w/ wc but in the long run better water quality will benefit the fish tremendously, coupled with a healthy diet + space and compatible tank mates will equate to the best possible attempt @ fk husbandry and long term health and overall happiness of the fish!

My piranhas seem a little on edge minutes after wc, incoming h20 temps are lower due to desire to breed them (helps replicate cold rainy season in Amazon, aka breeding time!) They tend to nip and chase but hours later all is good.


I have shown in this sticky that without a doubt pothos can GREATLY REDUCE NITRATES (N03), not only in my study but hundreds of others whom have experienced same results!

Those are some big fish, can you post a pic of the setup? Thx



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My pothos plants are huge. They extend the whole 6ft tank and some.
Sump is a 55g w/ dual 100 micron filter socks, 60-70#s of ceramics and 2 quiet one 6000 pumps.
I have the 2 pothos in 6" net pots suspended in my tank lids lit up by a 4ft 4bulb t5 flourescent.

Stock:

XIngu-10-12"
(2) azuls 8-10"
(2)f2 bahia kelberi 8-10"
(2)2 spot kelberi 8-9"

In all reality I should really just get a nitrates test kit.
I will just keep up w/ my 1-2x weekly 40-50% wc's.
IN the next few months im gonna add an fx5 and 25w UV.
Then its onto a bigger tank w/ a monster sump and a pothos section.
THe pothos add some good color to the tank and help improve not only the water quality but the air quality in my garage as well :)

The first pic is from the morning.
The rest are from the last month or 2.
Amazing how fast this plant will grow when given more than enough lighting.

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Gotcha, over looked that....

Pretty impressive!


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Thanks F1!
Those t5's are the main reason the plants grow so much.
I have noticed the fish are a lot happier w/ the plants in there. It gives em a nice natural cover.