I Got My Freshwater Bumble Bee Grouper!!!

rayman45

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thanks for clearing that up
 

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PeacockBass said:
Umm... First you tell me these are PURE freshwater ect ect.. now they are bred in brackish or raised? with a special technique?

I think you should get your story right. How about some concrete information and not just your sales pitch.
Now now Neal, let's all play nice here.

What Wes means is that they were raised in low salinity brackish water but they can also be kept in pure fresh water. Just like how most of the brackish water fish available on the market can be kept in pure freshwater too.

Oh and BTW, Wes isn't sales pitching anything. He only has 2 groupers. 1 went to Neo and the other is Not For Sale. :D
 

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how long are they expected to live in pure fresh?

I'm not bashing.....just curious
 

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its the next level. as far as sales pitch...hmmm...i didn't even advertise it for sale anywhere! there has been research involved in this for years already, just not many people are aware of it, and the internet is certainly not the last say so on this topic. try looking for bagana bleheri, see what you can turn up :) its in my tank, but not much on the web!

most of the ones on the market are farm bred in taiwan or thailand, and imported a few years back. i haven't seen much in the last year at any wholesalers. answer me this, can monodactylus, scatophagus, tetradon fluvitalius be kept in pure freshwater? some say they do better with some salt in their water, can anyone prove it? with concrete evidence? can anyone substantiate that them being in freshwater is like having chlorine gas in the air? this study of osmoregulation on fresh and salt water is old and outdated. evolution plays a big role here. i have more cutting edge stuff in my bags, but i don't know if i can release this information here any longer, if people are not able to think with an open mind. positive critique is welcomed, ignorance is dispised!
 

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fugupuff said:
this study of osmoregulation on fresh and salt water is old and outdated. evolution plays a big role here. i have more cutting edge stuff in my bags, but i don't know if i can release this information here any longer, if people are not able to think with an open mind. positive critique is welcomed, ignorance is dispised!
Most of us are guilty of ignorance But c;mon guys. What's in the textbooks is not ALWAYS right. All of us shoudl already know this especially with the fish we keep. It's all possible until proven wrong. In this case. A saltwater fish can't live in Freshwater has been proven wrong. I am very interested in Wes' views and experiences on evolution and how living things do adjust and adapt over time to new environments. Maybe some people can't accept the fact that this is happening now before their eyes and not over thousands or millions of years.

Don't give up Wes, there are more people here that would like to see what else u have in the bag than there are ignorant ones. :thumbsup:
 

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This was not even posted on the Buy and Sell forum so why would people assume this is for sale? Its on the Photo Lounge. I myself am truly curious as to how a traditionally brackish/sw fish be converted to a full fw one. I dont doubt Wes
nor do i deny that Peacockbass has a point.

We could critique and question and that is encouraged here in our site.
I do have a problem with bashing and making brash arrogant remarks .
That is the last thing that we need in our site.
 

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but mono's and scat's are fish that spend a majority(if not all) in a brackish environment. You can't compare those fish to a grouper that lives in the open ocean that occasionally come into an estuary to feed.
 
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