Jaguar cichlid Vs Channa Striata

CentralMayhem

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dude a jag or dovii will shred any oscar alive if the are of equal size. oscars just arent mean. they may not back down but they are not aggressive compared to either of the 2 mentioned. as far as trimacs or midas cichlids go, both can get huge as well. i saw some midas at steinhart aquarium sn francisco that were easily 16 to 18" MONSTERS. these fish would have little trouble defending themselves if the layout of their environment was right. inside the confines of an aquarium, theres not much room for a 3 to 4 foot fish. get you some huge cichlids and make some smaller caves for the channa. as the channa grows he will more than likely recognize his tankmates as too large or to aggressive to waste his energy on. rumble it sounds to me as though you are just looking to see a fight. you will need to have a place for one fish or the other to hide where it cant be reached. a bare tank with an aggressive Channa is not gonna work. you need a larger aquascaped tank if he is that agressive.
 

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rumblesushi said:
Just a quick update for those that said a 6 inch jag will not be showing it's personality yet and being aggressive, I put it in my community tank and it's being aggressive to everything in there. The only fish that's standing up to it is my 7 inch jardini, which it runs away from, but no actual fighting so far.
Sounds to me like you already know what will happen when you put something in with the channa. Seeing how you said that the channa would have to be swallowed to be beaten(which is wrong) then there really isnt any point in putting anything with it.
 

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CentralMayhem said:
dude a jag or dovii will shred any oscar alive if the are of equal size. oscars just arent mean. they may not back down but they are not aggressive compared to either of the 2 mentioned. as far as trimacs or midas cichlids go, both can get huge as well. i saw some midas at steinhart aquarium sn francisco that were easily 16 to 18" MONSTERS. these fish would have little trouble defending themselves if the layout of their environment was right. inside the confines of an aquarium, theres not much room for a 3 to 4 foot fish. get you some huge cichlids and make some smaller caves for the channa. as the channa grows he will more than likely recognize his tankmates as too large or to aggressive to waste his energy on. rumble it sounds to me as though you are just looking to see a fight. you will need to have a place for one fish or the other to hide where it cant be reached. a bare tank with an aggressive Channa is not gonna work. you need a larger aquascaped tank if he is that agressive.
maybe so central, my point was only the oscar's bravery. The oscars fight back, and until now they are the only fish I've seen that stand up to my snakehead and wolf fish.

I'm not really looking to see a fight CM, I've seen my snakehead tear things up already. I'd just like to be able to keep it with SOMETHING, anything, as I find keeping fish alone quite boring.
 

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you may have the same problem as with the jaguar! the dovii(wolf) cichlid is not much different . most likely your snakehead is an asian species so try clown knife / asian arrowana maybe another snakehead ?? other wise you will need a 600gal tank and a full grown jaguar/dovii/oscar/peacockbass/flowerhorn/skoal of red devils/midas !!!!!
 

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snakehead's alone are funn too?? :cry: :ROFL: :cry: :ROFL: :cry: :ROFL:
 

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don't say oscars are not mean yes i said not mean!. oscar's are the most intellegent fish and they have a personality there for they are proune to agression of corse some are not at all but the one I house in a 55gal long alone is hannibal lector with fins he it is 9'' long 3''thick(ballpark figure) he has killed 5" shovel nose cat / 6" green terror and beat my jack dempsey half to death! point being they are to smart to be called placid
 

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ROSS that's right my snakehead is Asian, as are almost all snakeheads ;)

I tried a dovii and it tried to fight back at first.

Other than the oscar it's the only fish that fought back.

It's also bigger than my channa. The same length but must weigh a lot more.

When I put it in it was a bit spooked and for some reason the channa ignored it. Then once the channa cottoned on to it's presence it went up to it nose to nose, puffed up, waggling, like it always does. The dovii hesitated then flared it's gills, and as the channa closed in the dovii went to lip lock/bite and actually bit the snakehead's face a couple of times.

The channa got freaked out and turned away like "what's going on, why the f##k is this fish fighting back?" :D

Then after about 5 seconds turned around and thought "f##k this, I'm bad, I'm bad", closed in on the dovii, struck it on the head fast, chased it around and struck it a few more times.

The dovii didn't want anymore of the ferocious channa. No more fighting back. Just hid vertically behind a filter just like everything else that's experienced the rage of my little snakehead.

It stayed there overnight but it's come out today and appears to be oke, so maybe this will work. It's a bit marked on it's head and body but nothing serious. It's swimming around and eating a bit too. The channa still chases it but it's wise enough to just avoid it.

Hopefully the channa will get used to it and they can live together.

It confirms what I've believed all along though, in my pound for pound toughest fish thread, all the people picking cichlids as the toughest pound for pound are just wrong.

A larger dovii has been owned by my very much juvenile striata, and a 1.5 foot dovii would weigh about the same as a 2.5 foot snakehead, and I'm sure would not stand a chance. The channa is too fast, too vicious, with a bigger mouth. I admire the bravery of cichlids like oscars and dovii's etc, but they are not born to kill like a snakehead or a wolf fish.
 

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it does not prove that your channa is the toughest or meanest. why don't you remove the channa from the tank and let the dovi get settled for a couple weeks then throw your channa in to a new surrounding. every fish you have thrown in is in a new home, not comfortable, not acclimated, and faced with a mean channa that has lived in the tank all along
 

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finsandfangs said:
it does not prove that your channa is the toughest or meanest. why don't you remove the channa from the tank and let the dovi get settled for a couple weeks then throw your channa in to a new surrounding. every fish you have thrown in is in a new home, not comfortable, not acclimated, and faced with a mean channa that has lived in the tank all along
You're wrong. I put the channa into the oscars tank, and the channa still went gung ho, straight at the significantly larger oscar.

My channa is tEH TOUGHEST AND ZEU MEANEST!!11!

If my channa doesn't even need to be settled in order to start getting evil on other fish, then neither do the others.

I fact the jag started attacking things in my other tank as soon as I put him in, hahaha, but wanted absolutely nothing to do with my channa.

And the dovii DID fight back, he was just outmatched. It's that simple.

A dovii is obviously a tough, brave fish, it just confuses me when people think a tough cichlid can take out a pure predator like an aggressive snakehead, or a wolf, or a jardini/asian aro.
 
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