Jaguar cichlid Vs Channa Striata

[jelly]

I have a 10" jag in with my African SH, The advantage the SH has is the size of his mouth, I have seen the SH with a good proportion of the jags face stuck in it. The jag however is a good fighter and easily turns the tables.

I have seen a skull shot of a Jag and there is a fine set of teeth, just as impressive as any Snakehead I have seen. I wouldn't underestimate any of the Larger central American Cichlids. They are very tough fish and would easily put them up against any Aro, wolf fish or comparable sized Snakehead.

A Dovii or Jag are just as pure a predator as a Snakehead, Just as ‘born to kill’ just a different shape.

 

[rumblesushi]

jelly, sure, fair enough. Though I've never seen evidence of it. I've never seen a jag or a dovii bite fish in half like a snakehead of wolf. Even yesterday I saw a vampire tetra bite a fish in half.

I disagree that they are as pure a predator. Their mouths are nowhere near as big, and they are not as fast and agile.

I heard parachannas are not that mean, and to be honest part of the point of this thread is that my little albino channa is unusually mean.

i used to have a micropeltes that grew to 2.5 foot and was a killer for sure, but that was nowhere near as mean as my current fish, especially as a juvenile.

 

[seighten]

damn, was hoping the "latest victim", oops i mean "latest addition" had gone down... then the next, and the next and so on... to the point that "boy genius" had reached a financial crisis to the point of being unable to afford food for even the bad@ss.... the bad@ss starves to death, and then this little imbecilic "experiment" would be over.....

haha, almost forgot the "i hate to have a single-fish tank going" quote.... yeah, sure!!

 

[rumblesushi]

damn, was hoping the "latest victim", oops i mean "latest addition" had gone down... then the next, and the next and so on... to the point that "boy genius" had reached a financial crisis to the point of being unable to afford food for even the bad@ss.... the bad@ss starves to death, and then this little imbecilic "experiment" would be over.....

haha, almost forgot the "i hate to have a single-fish tank going" quote.... yeah, sure!!

what's up with you d##khead? It's absolutely true. I don't like keeping single fish. I had my wolf alone for ages and it was just boring, no interaction with anyone, no activity.

I put a bichir, a hujeta, and 2 oscars in there. I became concerned that the bichir and hujeta would get killed, as my wolf seemed to be getting feistier - so I sold them both. The wolf is now with 2 oscars, and I am now selling the wolf as he's a boring fish, and I don't want the 2 oscars to get hurt.

I'm trying to find a suitable tankmate for my channa, nothing more.

If I simply wanted to see fish go at it I'd put my snakehead, jardini, wolf and oscars all in 1 tank.

It seems I may have found the suitable tankmate, the dovii.

 

[rumblesushi]

btw I bought the channa at 3 inches, and bought a spotted gar to go with it, which was about 4 inches. The spotted gar was a tankmate, I had absolutely no clue a 3 inch channa could be that aggressive. I have a weird one.

The reason I bought a spotted gar to go with it is I don't like keeping fish alone. I like to see movement and interaction in a tank. And to see different fish eating at the same time etc.

2 days later the little channa killed the spotted gar, and the rest is history, I've been trying to find something that can live with this fish.

 

[Motag 7]

rumblesushi i joined this forum just to talk to you, you say you're bored with havin g single fish, don't buy them get some damn neons, snake heads aren't meant to live with anything else, a 7" dovii is very young, he has hardly even realized his potential, iread youer post of how you put the snake head in the oscars tank, oscar are of the more less territorial cichlids, i've had five what a waste of my $. Give the dovii time, they are extremely smart and they are justa s much predators as a snake head, granted most cichlids like a midas are terrotorial not t predatory but the dovii is both, same with motag umbee etc. it is not a fair test to stick a young dovii in with a SH. Take the SH out and put them both in a tank at full grown dovii would pummel a full grown snake head.

 

[rumblesushi]

I don't understand what you're saying, my snakehead is more of a juvenile than the dovii.

A 6.5 inch dovii is closer to an adult than a 6.5 inch striata.

If you like the dovii's chances, fair enough, that's your opinion, but what first hand experience do you have to suggest that?

Dovii's are cool fish, if you like them that's cool, and they are probably the most badass cichlids I've seen (though I love peacock bass, I would not let my channa anywhere near my peacock) - but against a fully grown snakehead? Come on man, don't make me laugh.

A dovii gets to around 18 inches. I've seen one at around 16 inches in the flesh. Pretty big meaty fish, I've also seen snakeheads in the flesh over 3 foot, and owned a giant snakehead that I grew from 3 inches to 2.5 foot.

An 18 inch dovii would get it's stoumach ripped out by a 3 ft snakehead, if we were to take 10 3ft striatas or micros, and 10 dovii's, let the match happen 10 times - I'd bet my life on the snakeheads winning 9 out of 10.

Don't be sore just because you can't get these wonderful beasts in the US

 

[rumblesushi]

ps - people do in fact keep large channas with other fish successfully, let alone juveniles. Check out the photo lounge.

 

[sicklid-holic]

rumblesushi, Its obvious that you dont have much experience w/ different types of Central American cichlids, like jags, doviis, red devils, midas, motag, etc... These are just a few examples of different CA cichlids that are mean and gets big. However each fish does not show its true mean self until they hit certain size. A good example is the dovii cichlid which is very timid and mostly shy before they hit the 15" mark or bigger, then there true killer instinct will show. (Not sure if you have seen the famous large dovii video attacking the fish net).
And the same thing goes for the Jaguar cihlids, motaguenses or any parachromis species.
However Red Devils and Midas matures faster and show its aggression sooner. Around 6"-7" and gets meaner as it gets bigger. Attacking any fish and even owner in general.

If you want to do a fair match buy an aggressive male red devil or midas at around 7" mark (pick the one thats attacking you in the store). and keep it for maybe a month or longer in the same tank w/ you "fearless SN" w/ a divider in the middle. When you start seing the red devil starts attacking the Snakehead through the divider, Pull the divider out and see what happens.
I bet you the result will dissapoint you....

By the way I have all the CA cichlids fishes mention above except for the "king" Dovii. and I have a 8"male Red devil that is so mean it litterary jump out the water to bite my face and hit the tank so hard you hear teeth cracking. and no doubt it will shred you fearless Snakehead to piece in no time.

Just my 2c.

 

[rumblesushi]

Yes that's true sicklid, I'm not a cichlid guy really. I really like oscars and peacock bass, other than that I'm not very attracted to cichlids in general.

It's also fairly obvious you have no experience with snakeheads. I do have enough experience with snakeheads to know what they are capable of.

And no I don't think think a similar sized red devil would stand a chance against my striata.

I still think you guys are getting the wrong end of the stick. I don't WANT my channa to kill these fish. I want them as tankmates. Just SOMETHING else to make the tank more interesting, other than just one angry little snakehead prowling around.

When it became obvious the jag standed no chance and was hiding vertically behind a filter, I put it in my community tank with my jardini, peacock bass, bichirs, catfish etc.

For all this crap about them not being mean until a certain size, this jag started trying to bully everything in the tank within 10 minutes of it settling in. It tried to bite one of my bichirs and the bichir bit it back while it still had a piece of shrimp in it's mouth. It seems oke now.

Oh and btw, the dovii I got on purpose, because it was in a tank with 3 others, and the other 3 were ripped to SHREDS. THey had turned dark through stress and their bodies and fins were all tatty and ripped up, and this dovii didn't have a mark on him.

He seems kind of oke at the moment. Though he still gets chased regularly by the channa.

To be honest I don't care to put fish in just to see who wins, I don't have much doubt that my channa would beat the crap out of a same sized red devil, but if it's that important to you to find out, send me your red devil and I'll put it in