Jaguar cichlid Vs Channa Striata

[rumblesushi]

wrong central.

The only fish I've not put my snakehead with is my 9 inch hoplias, as I know there is a fair chance the wolf would kill the snakehead.

My SH is badass, no doubt about it, this experiment has been to see if I can have a tankmate with him.

For the time being it seems like that's a no for sure, as the dovii is dead.

I'm not gonna try anymore tankmates until I get a very large properly aquascaped tank.

 

[rumblesushi]

The dovii was fine one minute and dead the next, that's why I didn't take him out Motag.

 

[driftwood]

wait a minute! what did i miss? the Dovii is dead too? Jeeez

 

[unknownuza13]

You need to let the new "victim" fish set up in its own tank first and add the channa.. I don't care if you re-arrange the decor I don't think its even close to the same as adding a fish to a tank where the other fish is obviously already the owner. It may disrupt some feeling of territory but I think it is still his tank. I don't know who told you a full grown dovii gets 18". Also what makes you think just because at the same weight a snakehead is goign to be so much bigger is an advantage.. My pitbull at 53 pounds would destroy dogs of a much bigger size using his smaller muscle bound size to his advantage. My moms golden retriver only has about 6-7 pounds on him but she is at least twice his height which would work to her extreme disadvantage.. probably a bad ex but I'm just saying.. I think CM is right you have the most vicious fish ever dude good job...

 

[rumblesushi]

You need to let the new "victim" fish set up in its own tank first and add the channa.. I don't care if you re-arrange the decor I don't think its even close to the same as adding a fish to a tank where the other fish is obviously already the owner. It may disrupt some feeling of territory but I think it is still his tank. I don't know who told you a full grown dovii gets 18". Also what makes you think just because at the same weight a snakehead is goign to be so much bigger is an advantage.. My pitbull at 53 pounds would destroy dogs of a much bigger size using his smaller muscle bound size to his advantage. My moms golden retriver only has about 6-7 pounds on him but she is at least twice his height which would work to her extreme disadvantage.. probably a bad ex but I'm just saying.. I think CM is right you have the most vicious fish ever dude good job...

I heard a wild max size is 2 foot, captive size around 1.5 foot.

So what's the reason for the jag attacking everything in my community tank after only 10 minutes of being there if it needs to settle in?

I had to stick the jag in with my oscars and wolf because it was being too aggressive, yet it got owned by my snakehead.

I@m sure your pit would destroy much larger dogs, like labradors, probably even dobermann and rotweilers. However it would not destroy something like a dogue de bordeaux or japanese tosa. They are tough as hell and much bigger.

In the same vein an 18 inch dovii would destroy a 3 foot carp, but not a 3 foot snakehead or wolf fish.

If you like cichlids fair enough, but if an aggressive 18 inch dovii and an aggressive 3 foot snakehead were put into a neutral tank, and you had to bet your life on it you'd pick the snakehead and you know it. Anyone who would not pick the snakehead

This is not about my snakehead being the toughest fish alive, don't be such idiots, this is about my snakehead being absurdly aggressive for a juvenile fish. I find it funny and surprising and I've been trying to see if anything can live with it.

I'm under no illusions that one of SG's snakeheads (see catfish video) would rip my snakehead in half. My fish is nowhere near as big and brutal as those yet, he's just a vicious little baby. Just like I'm under no illusions that my 9 inch wolf would probably kill my channa, as the wolf is too fat for the snakehead to get it's mouth around.

 

[rumblesushi]

wait a minute! what did i miss? the Dovii is dead too? Jeeez

Everything was fine for a while. the dovii was even eating pellets and shrimp, and learned to stay out of the snakeheads way. The occasional chase but nothing serious.

Then out of the corner of my eye I saw the channa shake the dovii by the face twice. That's pretty nasty and I don't like to see that. To be honest I didn't think that would be possible. He did the same thing to a smaller convict, but I didn't think he'd be able to get his mouth around this fish. I thought the worst that could happen is the dovii would be perpetually harrassed and chased.

It didn't get ripped apart or anything, but basically had half it's face missing, and died pretty much on the spot and started floating around.

 

[rumblesushi]

my woman says she won't let me buy anymore tankmates for my channa anyway, says it's stupid and pointless, she hates the snakehead

 

[Motag 7]

dude, dovii don't get 18" i have spoken with a guy who had a 28" male, still in captivity they can reach about 32" and a matter of inches when it is that big doesn't make a difference, and why didn'ty you even comment on how unfair it is about tossing the dovii in there, you said that it doesn't matter because you tossed your jag in with your oscar, OSCARS DON'T STAND A CHANCE, they are by far the most commonly overated cichlid ever, so it really doesn't count.

 

[rumblesushi]

dude, dovii don't get 18" i have spoken with a guy who had a 28" male, still in captivity they can reach about 32" and a matter of inches when it is that big doesn't make a difference, and why didn'ty you even comment on how unfair it is about tossing the dovii in there, you said that it doesn't matter because you tossed your jag in with your oscar, OSCARS DON'T STAND A CHANCE, they are by far the most commonly overated cichlid ever, so it really doesn't count.

what are you talking about? I tossed the jag in with the oscars for the safety of my other fish, the jag was trying to bully my beloved bichirs and peacock bass. And I removed the jag from my channa tank for the safety of the jag.

There is no aggression between the jag and oscars, they are fine with each other.

I've never heard of dovii's getting that big, show me a photo of a 2ft plus dovii in captivity.

You cichlid guys SERIOUSLY need to lighten up about this. And please believe me that I'm not buying these fish with the intention of them dying. I'm trying to get my channa to live with something, and so far unsuccessfully.

And as a by the way I'm also saying that the baddest cichlids would not stand a chance against a channa.

Show me a video of a dovii as devastating as SG's old snakeheads, or a photo of it biting a decent sized fish clean in half. A dovii would go to lip lock a big snakehead and get it's head bitten off, it's that simple. A dovii may be brave, but a snakehead is bigger, quicker, more agile, bigger mouth, more teeth, more devastating bite.

 

[Miles]

I don't see why it is such a big deal, all of the Cichlids you have tried are commonly tank-bred, and are usually a dime-a-dozen and always instock at petstores.. Its not like hes throwing something rare or valuable in there..

It's also no coincidence that all of the fish that Motag has kept are also common, tank-bred, dime-a-dozen fish.. Experience... Maybe? Complexicity of overall knowledge.. Lacking?

I, for one, have never owned a Snakehead, but I understand their personality just from reading about them and watching videos.. but there are 2 things that set apart Channa from Cichlids.. Chichlids are aggressive because of Territory, and they would rather 'Battle' over territory. Channa are aggressive out of nature, and would rather 'Kill' over territory.. Channa are also equiped with the weaponry to do so (teeth, bite, agility..)..

I too have attempted to keep tankmates with a fish that is suppose to have 'no-tankmates'.. I now have a fully stocked Fahaka puffer tank, after having quite a few casualties, he could care less about his tankmates. Am I cruel and a bad person because I sacraficed a few cheap cichlids that I bought from a corprorate pet store, which were likely doomed for death as soon as they left the asian breeding farm?


Hey Rumblesushi, try this when the wife is not looking..

Take the Channa out, place him in a 5g bucket for a few hours.. Then add about 5 good sized convicts, with multiple hiding spots.. Hopefully you can get a few pairs, because they seem braver in pairs. Then also add a school of 6-10 Giant Danios, at full size.. This set-up should hopefully have enough movement and chaoticness that when the Channa is re-introduced, he will become a little more defensive, than offensive. You may have some casualties, but he also might get tired of chasing other fish. However, with the speed and cunning of the Channa, it might just be a long, drawn-out expensive meal. This is the method I used with my Fahaka, adding a school of large tinfoil barbs with some african cichlids, severums, and a few other fish all at the same time.