My Plywood Build 250 Gallon

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CJH;3981899; said:
I'm sure you're already aware of this, but epoxy should end up costing quite a bit less than Pond Coat. More expensive on a per volume basis but cheaper to waterproof on a square foot basis since epoxy is 100% solids and only needs about 1/5 the total wet mil thickness that PC needs.

Just wanted to mention this in case you were assuming a tank needs as much epoxy as it does PC.

Assuming no fiberglass reinforcment, shoot for around 20 mils thickness with epoxy. One chemist at West Systems calls this overkill but did admit to me that 20 mil thickness is a good way in insure any given part of the tank will have 10 mils thickness which is generally what's needed to waterproof a plywood and account for the fact that plywood varies a lot in surface smoothness.

A gallon of epoxy will coat 80 sq. ft. of plywood with 20 mils of cured epoxy. Since it is 100% solids wet mil thickness and dry mil thickness are considered equal.
Yes, I did learn that in my research. My main reason for not going with pond coat is the difficulties people are having sealing the glass in. I understand that if all the conditions are just right it is not a problem, but I would rather not take the chance. One of best parts of PC is it's flexability but my tank is not going to be moving so that should not be a problen with a sturdy stand. As stated I am not knocking PC, but for me I am going with epoxy.


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Bear

PS Starting back working on it tommorrow. Updates soon
 

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john73738;3981990; said:
One of best parts of PC is it's flexability but my tank is not going to be moving so that should not be a problen with a sturdy stand. As stated I am not knocking PC, but for me I am going with epoxy.
Yeah, I'm not knocking PC either. Hope to find an excuse to use it myself someday.

As far as flexibility, marine epoxy is more than flexible enough for any plywood tank structure. Somehow or another epoxy has gotten the reputation on various fish forums as being brittle but that has more to do with one specific product and polyester than it does with regular epoxy resin.

Some guy where I grew up used to raise some sort of aquatic pond plant. He kept them in his garage during the winter. He had huge 4x8x42" plywood ponds all plumbed together. No external framing, just plywood sheets screwed together. No windows and sealed with epoxy. Water height did not come up to the top but I'd say it was close to 36" deep. Sides bowed out like crazy but they held for years and he later sold all of them to somebody in a nearby town and they held water for years as well.

For the record I would not recommend this nor would I do it myself but it's hard to overlook the results this guy had with the four or five plywood ponds that filled his garage.

There are epoxy formulations that are not this flexible but most of the regular epoxy resins discussed on this forum are flexible enough. As flexible as PC? No, but flexible enough for what we're doing.
 

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CJH;3982032; said:
As far as flexibility, marine epoxy is more than flexible enough for any plywood tank structure. Somehow or another epoxy has gotten the reputation on various fish forums as being brittle but that has more to do with one specific product and polyester than it does with regular epoxy resin.
I have to agree CJH. For me the choice is easy. If the product is not designed for timber boat building it probably is not the best product to use.Timber boat building is the closest concept to timber tank building IMO, only boats keep the water out instead of in.
 

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So Bracing is done. Went a little larger than Fishguy recommended and used 1x4s with 1 1/2x1/2 strips to give a little extra rigidity.







Reasoning being that the filter is going to sit on top of the tank.

More later, cutting and building the filter today (I hope)


BTW Yes the glass will fit in even with the lip I screwed around the top. :D
 

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Here is a sample of todays progress. Have to go get my stepson but wanted to put up a little teaser.



With Filter...... :D



More to come in a little while

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