I been in this hobby since 1986 and own all size fish an I have developed a great eye on sizing fish down to 1"-2" I personally have own a 21" umbee and he was no where close to the size of that fish, an if you think that blue male dovii is 20-24" I can tell you that you off by 10" lol unless the old male died an a new one became dominated but hey that's just my opinion. But I no one thing all of us would luv to have him.
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